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| Location | Rio de Janeiro, State of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil |
|---|---|
| Teams | Botafogo Fluminense |
| First meeting | Fluminense 6–0 Botafogo Exhibition game (October 22, 1905) |
| Latest meeting | Fluminense 0–2 Botafogo 2023 Campeonato Brasileiro (October 8, 2023) |
| Stadiums | Maracanã (Fluminense) Nilton Santos (Botafogo) |
| Statistics | |
| Meetings total | 389 |
| Top scorer | Heleno de Freitas (16) Waldo (16) |
| All-time series | Botafogo: 128 Fluminense: 143 Draw: 118 |
| Largest victory | Fluminense 8–0 Botafogo 1906 Campeonato Carioca (May 16, 1906) |
The Clássico Vovô (English: Grandpa Derby or Grandfather Derby) is the name given to Botafogo and Fluminense association football derby, both teams from the city of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It is the oldest rivalry among the major clubs in Brazil, and the third oldest in the Americas.[1][2]
Botafogo and Fluminense are two of the four big clubs in Rio de Janeiro, alongside Flamengo and Vasco da Gama.[3]
Matches take place at the Maracanã Stadium, with 78 thousand seats, and at the Nilton Santos Stadium, with 45 thousand seats, located in the Engenho de Dentro neighborhood.[4]
The most contested tournament by teams is the Carioca Championship, with Botafogo winning the competition 21 times, and Fluminense 33. In the Brazilian Championship, Botafogo won two titles and Fluminense won four, in addition to the Brazil Cup.
At international level, Botafogo has won the CONMEBOL Cup, and Fluminense has won a Copa Libertadores and a Copa Rio, which it claims is equivalent to a Club World Cup. Fluminense is the only football team in the world to hold the IOC Olympic Cup ("Coupe Olympique"), a non-competitive award for distinguished service in defending the ideals of the Olympic Movement and for considering the particular merits of institutions or associations and their services provided to sport, achieved in 1949.
History
Oscar Cox, founder of Fluminense Football Club, was one of those largely responsible for bringing football to Rio de Janeiro, and in 1902 he created the city's first football club, in the Laranjeiras neighborhood. Two years later, students from the Alfredo Gomes school, in Botafogo, decided to create a football team in their own neighborhood, starting the Botafogo Football Club, which years later would join the neighborhood's rowing club, and form the Botafogo de Futebol e Regatas.
The name comes from being the two oldest practicing football clubs among the great clubs of Rio de Janeiro, and this is also the oldest classic in Brazil, because its first game was on October 22, 1905, friendly that Fluminense won by 6–0.
Foundation of the Carioca Championship
In 1906, the first Carioca Football Championship was formed, six clubs came together and created the LMF (Liga Metropolitana de Football, or Metropolitan Football League), including Botafogo and Fluminense. Fluminense team was made up of Brazilian and English players, and won this first championship, applying the biggest score of the fixture: 8–0 over Botafogo, made up of young students.[5]
The 1907 Carioca Championship had several problems in its execution, starting with the withdrawal of Bangu and Rio Cricket from the competition. Botafogo and Fluminense finished tied in championship points, but Fluminense's goal average was higher, at the time it was decided by the Metropolitan League that Fluminense would win the title. Botafogo never recognized their rival's achievement, claiming that the tiebreaker criteria at the time were not clear, and a tiebreaker game should have been held. The legal dispute for the title lasted until 1996, when FFERJ declared both 1907 champions.[6]
Direct decisions of the Carioca Championship
The Grandpa Derby directly decided the Campeonato Carioca nine times, with Flu becoming champion in 1908, 1909, 1946, 1959, 1971, 1975 and 2012, and Fogão in 1910 and 1957.[7]
Highest attendances
- Botafogo–Fluminense 0–1, 160,000 (142,339 paid), June 27, 1971
- Botafogo–Fluminense 1–0, 123,229 (99,991 paid), April 18, 1971
- Botafogo–Fluminense 1–1, 114.575, September 4, 1983
- Botafogo–Fluminense 1–2, 109,705, April 21, 1975
- Botafogo–Fluminense 1–1, 105,299 (80,816 paid), March 23, 1969
- Botafogo–Fluminense 1–0, 100,703, August 17, 1975
- Botafogo–Fluminense 6–2, 99,465, December 22, 1957
- Botafogo–Fluminense 1–1, 88,571, December 10, 1967
- Botafogo–Fluminense 2–1, 88,081, July 13, 1958
- Botafogo–Fluminense 3–1, 81,359, November 22, 1953
Statistics
| Club | P | W | D | Goals |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Botafogo | 389 |
128 |
118 |
526 |
| Fluminense | 143 |
574 |
Latest updated: Fluminense 0–2 Botafogo, in Maracanã Stadium (played on October 8, 2023)
Titles comparison
| Level | Competitions | Botafogo | Fluminense |
|---|---|---|---|
International |
Rio International Cup | - |
1 |
Continental |
Copa Libertadores | - |
1 |
| CONMEBOL Cup | 1 |
- | |
National |
Brazilian Championship | 2 |
4 |
| Brazil Cup | - |
1 | |
Inter-state |
Rio – São Paulo Tournament | 4 |
3 |
| Primeira Liga (Brazil) | - |
1 | |
State |
Carioca Championship | 21 |
33 |
Total general |
28 |
43 | |
Note (1): Although Flamengo and Fluminense both consider themselves champions of the Torneio Rio–São Paulo in 1940 (according to some sources, the other clubs that participated in this competition too considered Flamengo and Fluminense champions of this competition), officially this competition ended without an official champion. Making officially Flamengo have 1 Torneio Rio–São Paulo and Fluminense 2 Torneio Rio–São Paulo.
References
- Enciclopédia do Futebol Brasileiro, Volume 1 - Lance, Rio de Janeiro: Aretê Editorial S/A, 2001.
- ↑ Globo, Acervo-Jornal O. "Os apelidos dos clássicos, dos 'milhões' de Vasco e Flamengo ao eterno Fla-Flu". Acervo (in Brazilian Portuguese). Retrieved 2023-12-12.
- ↑ "Fluminense vs. Botafogo". www.footballderbies.com. Retrieved 2023-12-12.
- ↑ "The 4 Major Football Teams in Rio de Janeiro | Caminhos". 2022-11-22. Retrieved 2023-12-13.
- ↑ "The 13 most important football stadiums in Brazil | Franks Travelbox". Retrieved 2023-12-13.
- ↑ "1906 Campeonato Carioca", Wikipedia, 2022-03-17, retrieved 2023-12-13
- ↑ "1907 Campeonato Carioca", Wikipedia, 2020-09-13, retrieved 2023-12-13
- ↑ "Retrospecto do Fluminense em finais contra o Botafogo é de animar qualquer apostador; saiba mais | Odds Shark". www.oddsshark.com (in Brazilian Portuguese). Retrieved 2023-12-12.