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    Contents...................................................(i)
    Editorial..................................................(1)
    Ol' WDB:  Past Fidonews Editor, and a Great Friend, Passes (2)
    Notes From the Z1C.........................................(3)
    The Old School Toolbox: It's About Communication...........(4)
    Dr.Debug...................................................(5)
    Food.......................................................(6)
    New UPDATED! Fidonet Compatible Software List
      BBS/Mailers/Utilities List...............................(7)
    FidoGazette BBS List.......................................(8)
    e-Ministries by Jon Justvig................................(9)
    Info (Where to Send Articles)..............................(10)
    
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    T h e   F i d o G a z e t t e!   Volume IV   Number XII  December, 2010
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    Editorial
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    Warren D. Bonner, who was a past Editor of Fidonews left this world on
    November, 17th, 2010 - What a terrible loss to his family and to all
    who knew this wonderful man's gentle nature.  Many of us will remember
    Warren's kind and cheerful attitude and quick witty mind, and miss him,
    that is for sure.  I offer our heartfelt condolences to his family but
    that doesn't seem enough.  Please see information in the next article
    if you'd like to send condolences to his family.  
    
    I've put together several clips of Warren's WWII biography in my
    article in this issue, "Ol' WDB: Past Fidonews Editor, and a Great
    Friend, Passes".  He described his life and the history of his ship,
    The Mighty "E"astwind for all.  I wish my Dad had done so as well with
    his ship in WWII, The Quincy.  Failing that, Warren's history in his
    book provides a wonderful insight into that era.  You can pick up a
    copy of his ebook here, see info in the article.
    
    ===
    
    Sadly, there has been plenty of Fidonet nonsense going on in the
    FTSC_PUBLIC echo even though the election has ended.  R16C, Jerry
    Schwartz  published a comment in the FTSC echo, but obviously that was
    barely noticed by some.  Richard follows up on that comment in his
    ToolBox article in this issue.
    
    While this kind of argumentation on in that echo is nothing new to some
    of us - we've grown weary, or at least I do, of the constant childish
    degrading of some members of Fidonet who are part of the FTSC.  FTSC
    committee members are people who are willing to give their time to help
    fidonet function while working in the background, updating and writing
    the technical specs of current practice.
    
    At at time when everyone should be happy that we have good and
    knowledgeable SysOps volunteering to work for all of us via the FTSC,
    there are some in that echo who it would seem cannot deal with the idea
    of some new members joining because THEY think the new members may be
    "technically incompetant".  All based on one errant netmail..
        
    The gist of their complaint is that a newly elected member to the FTSC
    may not have had his GoldEd program configured correctly to allow for
    proper routing of International netmail.. 
    
    What's important, I think is that we don't need this kind of attitude
    towards a newly elected member - it certainly isn't going to encourage
    others to run for this essentially non-rewarding position.
        
    
           
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    	Ol' WDB:  Past Fidonews Editor, and a Great Friend, Passes
    	By Janis Kracht, 1:261/38
    	    
     From Warren Bonner's family (Courtesy of Jim White, Thanks Jim!)
     
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            Dear Friends and Loved Ones of Ol' WDB,
            
            For many years you have been receiving advice, jokes, rhymes
            and stories from this address.  Today we would ask that you
            celebrate the life and love you shared with Warren Debrell
            Bonner who passed away yesterday, November 17, 2010.  He has
            gone to join those in his family who have passed before him.
             
             
             We ask that you respect the wishes of the family and refrain
             from phone calls during this time.  Please feel free to e-mail
             comments to this e-mail address and we will collect them for
             Jan.
             
             Please celebrate his Life....and all the joy he brought to so
             many during his 85 years with us.
             
             Thank you for your kind thoughts.
             
             
             In lieu of flowers, a donation may be made to:
                   Disabled American Veterans
                   P.O. Box 14301
                   Cincinnati, OH 45250-0301
                   Attn: Gift Processing
                        
                        
                    The Bonner Home
                    222 North Shasta
                    Orange CA, 92869
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    Warren also wrote a fantastic historical document, detailing the part
    he, his ship, and his crew members played in the North Atlantic
    Campaign of World War II.  You can pick up the entire ebook here:
    http://www.filegate.net/eastwind.pdf
    
    I offer you just some clips from his book, and in them you can see the
    gentleman he was, and what a great person he was.
    
    Thank you, Warren, for letting us share in a small part of your life
    through Fidonet, and thank you for taking the time to document your
    life story during WWII, where we can get a glimpse into knowing your
    life a bit better.
    
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    From The Tale of the "Mighty 'E’astwind"
    Written by Warren Debrell Bonner

            The Tale of the "Mighty 'E’astwind"
                USCGC ICEBREAKER W279
                   1943 to 1968
               A biography from WWII, 
          North Atlantic campaign, Arctica & Antarctica
                                                 
          Warren Debrell Bonner
           222 North Shasta
           Orange, CA 92869-3432
           wdbonner@pacbell.net 
           
           About the author: 

           I was born in Fisher County, Texas August 25,1925 on a ranch
           named "The Ole Eighteen", because it was eighteen miles square;
           and was a cattle and farming ranch, I was told by my father Owen
           E.  Bonner.  I became aware of my surroundings a couple of years
           later when my father built our house in the town of Sweetwater,
           Texas on a lot at 805 Lubbock St.  We lived there until 1930. 
           The Ole eighteen was subdivided and sold off to satisfy the
           depression debts, loss of cattle to Hoof & Mouth disease from
           Mexican cattle drives across the ranch.  Later my father bought
           a Dairy farm East of Sweetwater and I mostly grew up on a Diary
           farm of 360 acres.  When WWII calls for enlistments by Uncle
           Sam, I was finishing my junior year in Newman High School.  All
           of my friends were already enlisted.  I did too.  That will be
           covered later in the electronic pages of the book I'm writing
           about a great lady of the Polar Seas.  "The mighty ‘E'-astwind".

           [...]
           
                        Chapter 1
                        
            The Mighty "E"astwind She was born on June 3, 1943...  a bright
            warm sunny day in San Pedro, California, in the Western Pipe &
            Steel Company's navy yard.  She was the first all diesel
            electric icebreaker built for Polar service, and commissioned
            into the Coast Guard fleet, which operated under the auspices
            of the US Navy in time of war.  Her name was the Eastwind W279. 
            Commissioning day, June 3, 1943 Western Pipe & Steel, San
            Pedro, Ca.  I first saw her a few days before her commissioning
            day while on liberty from my temporary beach patrol duty
            station, N21 at Santa Barbara, Ca., while waiting for the
            Eastwind's completion.  It had been rumored that most of us
            would be assigned to her.  My buddy Chuck had a Harley Davidson
            motorcycle and we went to San Pedro, Ca.  Navy Yard to get a
            look at her.  We found her in the 'Roosevelt Dry Dock' San
            Pedro, Ca.  What an awesome sight she was from the floor of the
            dry dock!  She had the width abeam to almost fill the Drydock
            wall to wall.  Almost 70 feet wide.  Her keel appeared to be
            approximately three foot square resting on concrete supports
            waist high for her almost two hundred seventy foot length. 
            Looking upward, a good forty feet to the top of the painted
            waterline line, and continuing our upward gaze to the
            antiaircraft antenna atop the mast one hundred and ninety six
            feet was astounding to a country boy from the middle of Texas. 
            Looking at the mammoth screws, (propellers), made of a brass
            alloy we could not even guess their weight.  Later we were told
            they weighed thirty tons.  The shafts that supported these huge
            propellers were about three feet in diameter.
            
            It was a presidential order that compressed the five year ship
            building estimate into three years.  He knew from his advisors
            that the Nazi were using weather radio stations near the North
            Pole, where all weather begins in the northern hemisphere, to
            calculate weather conditions for the V-2 rockets Hitler's war
            machine were raining on England, and later for recon flights
            and raids on Murmansk bound convoys with supplies for Russia,
            and amassing men and armament, for the "D-Day" invasion of
            Normandy.

            [...]
            
            Morning of September 28 found the Eastwind well off Shannon
            Island and running southward before a whole
            northerly gale. She lurched heavily at times as mountainous
            seas caught her in a wide yaw. Fine particles of
            driving snow kept the decks white and slippery, making it
            difficult and somewhat dangerous to get about the
            laboring vessel.
            
            I was on the bridge-wing, clinging tightly to the bulwark on
            the uproll, pressing heavily against it on the downroll. 
            Suddenly the angry hissing of the sea and the wail of the wind
            were shattered by a crash.  I slid along the bulwark until I
            could look aft and see the deck.  What I saw was not a happy
            sight.  The hold- down chains securing our plane had snapped
            under the terrific wind pressure.  The little aircraft was
            lying on its side with its port wing smashed against the deck. 
            Lieutenant M.J.  Cummings and his damage-control party were
            passing a six-inch hawser around the plane to keep it from
            being carried over the side.  But even from where I stood it
            was evident that the J2F would never fly again.
            
            This was a serious handicap. More than ever, now that the enemy
            might be approaching the area, we needed air reconnaissance. 
            We would have to figure out something.  The figuring out did
            not take long.  It was dictated by the weather.  Obviously
            winter was taking a hand and I soon would have to send the
            smaller ships to Iceland.  The crippled Northland gave me
            particular concern.  In spite of Butcher’s capabilities, I did
            not relish having her meet the advancing polar pack with her
            jury steering rig.
            
            Clearly it was time to re-estimate the situation. We had one
            new factor to take into consideration: the Eastwind’s sister
            ship, the brand- new Southwind.  The day our plane was damaged
            I received a dispatch saying the Southwind was departing Boston
            to join my task unit.  But she could not reach northeast
            Greenland for at least a week.  If weather and ice permitted, I
            wanted to keep the Northland, Evergreen and Storis in the area
            until the Southwind arrived.  What about a plane for the
            Eastwind?  Well, since the Storis must soon depart, I would
            take her plane.  And in view of weather conditions it would be
            wise to rendezvous as soon as possible.  Then we could bring
            the Storis’ plane aboard the Eastwind at the first favorable
            moment..  Consequently I sent a dispatch to Lieutenant
            Commander Thresher, ordering him to take the Storis to Freden
            Bay without delay.  We also ran toward Freden Bay, working
            through some ten miles of ice before we came to anchor in the
            Ice of Shannon Island near Cape Philip Broke.
            
            [...]
            
            When the Storis joined us the storm was raging stronger.  The
            two ships could not moor alongside each other to make the
            exchange of aircraft.  Then around midnight the Northland broke
            radio silence.  Butcher reported he was having “a little
            difficulty” due to his jury steering cable having parted. 
            Heavy seas and floes of polar ice prevented him from making
            repairs.  A little difficulty!  It was typical of the capable,
            self-reliant Butcher to imply he could get along without help. 
            But I was convinced that we had better lend a hand.  Ordering
            the Storis to stand by at Freden Bay, we hove up our anchor and
            stood out of our snug haven.  After nearly ten hours of
            battling the weather and crashing through a belt of heavy ice
            at the entrance of Hochstetter Bay we found the stricken
            Northland.  She was drifting helplessly in the trough and in
            constant danger of being thrust against wicked storis and
            bergs.  There is little point in describing in detail the
            delicate maneuvers necessary to pass a line to the Northland in
            those heavily running seas and take her in tow.  But I want to
            say that Chief Quartermaster Archie Brooks had the Eastwind’s
            wheel and gave a demonstration of unusual judgment and skill in
            counteracting the wave motions which yawed us violently and
            tended to send our ponderous bulk crashing into the Northland. 
            We got her in tow and quickly worked up to twelve knots, giving
            her that fastest ride of her career---save, of course, for the
            night she was caught in the storm off Cape Farewell at the
            completion of our Jan Mayen job.  The Storis was now ordered
            out of Freden Bay to screen us against the possibility of
            submarine attack, while the Evergreen was called up to scout
            the pack for a lead to open water.  Once again that day we saw
            a demonstration of unusual judgment and skill.  Lieutenant John
            E.  Klang, USCG, skipper of the Evergreen, proved himself a
            worthy sea sailor.  Without the aid of aircraft he readily
            located a lead into Pendulum Strait and took station outside to
            guide us in.  We had the Northland in relatively calm water by
            5:00 P.M.  Then we hove short the hawser and fitted her bow
            into our towing crotch.  Thus coupled together we proceeded
            like a two-car train.  The Evergreen now commenced an
            antisubmarine patrol around the Northland, Eastwind and Storis,
            which huddled together in Pendulum Strait while the Northland
            repaired her steering rig and the Eastwind and Storis exchanged
            planes.  Our experience with the Northland during these last
            twenty-four hours made me even more certain that I must get the
            three small ships away from northeast Greenland without delay. 
            An air reconnaissance on September 30 added weight to this
            conviction.  Using the plane we had taken from the Storis,
            Little Mac found the southern limit of the polar pack at Cape
            Bismark.
            
            
            From eastwind-2.PDF "The Tale of the "Mighty 'E’astwind", by
            Warren Debrell Bonner August 25,1925-November 17th, 2010  
            Fondly Remembered and missed by us!
                                                                       

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    Notes from the Z1C
    
    This month our FTSC election comes to a close.
    
    Elected into office:
    
     | Name                 |  Node nr    | Yes| No |
     |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
     | Stas Degteff         | 2:5080/102  | 15 |  2 |
     | Fred Riccio          | 1:132/174   | 13 |  2 |
     | Dieter Ringhofer     | 2:2476/14   | 13 |  1 |
     | Alexey Vissarionov   | 2:5020/545  | 12 |  5 |
     | Carol Shenkenberger  | 1:275/100   | 15 |  4 |
     | mark lewis           | 1:3634/12   | 15 |  4 |
     | Robert Wolfe         | 1:261/20    | 14 |  2 |
     | Andrew Leary         | 1:320/119   | 13 |  2 |
              
     New members are Robert Wolfe and Andrew Leary.
     
     Congratulations to All!  Thank you very much for agreeing to work for
     the betterment of Fidonet.  We appreciate the time you are willing to
     give our hobby.
                       
              
    
    Returning Members:
    ==================
    Region 17     Charles Waters   Tacoma, Washington USA
    Region 14     Eric Oulashin    
    
    Welcome Back Charles!  Welcome to Eric!
    
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                       The Old School Toolbox

                       By Richard Webb, 1:116/901

                    It's About Communication

    Recently a question was posed in response to the medium temperature
    flame war going on in the ftsc_public echo.  For those who didn't see
    it, Jerry Schwartz states:

	"FidoNet was perhaps more than just a hobby once, when it had more
    users than Prodigy or Delphi; but it is hardly anybody's lifeline now.

	"Yet here we are with a flame war going on in at least two echos, and
    over an FTSC election of all things.  With all due respect, this is
    unseemly at our age."

	It is no surprise that the temperature in ftsc_public is so high. 
    First, you have a candidate for reelection who, although it appears is
    technically competent might not have the greatest people skills.

	The members of the FTSC must be technically competent, but also need
    good communication skills, because being able to communicate
    effectively is part of their mission.  After all, the job of the ftsc
    is to document existing Fidonet standards.  The documentation they
    produce must be understandable to folks with varying levels of
    technical mastery.  This has been the job of the FTSC since it was
    revived after the days of IFNA.  Many have misunderstood that role over
    the years, instead believing that the FTSC dictates standards.  IT has
    been explained numerous times in FIdonews, and in the echoes over the
    years that the duties of the FTSC are to document standards in use
    throughout Fidonet.  This means that not just do the committee members
    need a good technical knowledge base, but they need to communicate this
    knowledge to all sorts of folks.  Just like Fidonet in general, the
    work of that committee is about communicating, not with machines, but
    with human beings.

    Is it any wonder that when some region coordinators poll their
    constituents this individual receives a resounding no?  Additionally,
    is it a surprise that certain folks would react to some of these
    comments in a rather partisan manner?

    I smelled this one in the wind as soon as the referenced individual was
    nominated to retain his seat on the FTSC.  But, I also note that the
    party he picks on relentlessly has stated that he is technically
    competent and should probably retain his seat.

    In its days of large numbers of users Fidonet was about facilitating
    communication between people, and could be very much so again.  It
    offers some of the advantages of usenet without some of the
    liabilities.  But, today's fidonet is largely made up of people whose
    interest is the hardware, and facilitating communication between flesh
    and blood humans secondary.  It work in a profession where the folks
    handling the technical details are often those who spend their days
    locked in a windowless room fiddling with their machines, but without
    the people on the business end of the microphone there would be no need
    for all their fiddling.  Those who achieve the best results
    consistently in this process are those who can bridge the gap between
    interacting with their machines and interacting with humans.  Often
    this means that to bring the project to completion a producer is
    needed, and his/her job is often bridging this gap.

    This gap is not well bridged in today's Fidonet. All one need do is
    look at the echoes which see consistent activity.  The best conferences
    in terms of readability are those where there is actually some human
    interaction taking place.  Hence, echoes such as cooking; memories, and
    the various political discussion echoes still survive.  Some special
    interest echoes within fidonet that used to be quite active back in the
    day limp along with the assistance of posters who provide posts of
    information via autoposters and the like.  OTherwise, most of the
    echomail conferences seeing high traffic are populated by robots.

    During the last election cycle for FTSC members Nick Andre and I talked
    a bit about ways to get web based forums linked to Fidonet echoes. 
    Many specialized internet forums would benefit greatly from an echomail
    conference.  Some denizens of usenet who would otherwise benefit from
    web-based forums in their areas of special interest refuse to use them,
    the interface is poor, no method of offline reading and replying such
    as usenet and Fidonet offer, etc.  I'm one of those folks.

    We could benefit greatly from those specialized forums helping populate
    our special interest echoes.

    Would a concept such as Groupmail be more appropriate to some of these
    forums?  Maybe, but that's the subject of a whole different article. 
    Still, we have virtually no work going on in this area, and a candidate
    for a committee whose job is to communicate with those interested who's
    receiving a resounding no from some of those eligible to vote because
    of the way he interacts with people in the public echo.  IS the man
    technically qualified?  Indications are he is.  Does the man have the
    skills needed to communicate well with a variety of people in the most
    common international language?  Obviously, there are some who have
    doubts.

    One regional coordinator polled his net coordinators and independents
    and voted according to the results and was questioned and criticized
    roundly for doing so.  But, it should be remembered that this RC has
    not forgotten what the goal of Fidonet is, and that's to facilitate
    communication among human beings, those flesh and blood things that sit
    in front of the machines.

    I lobbied for one of the candidates myself with numerous netmails going
    about, because not just is this candidate quite competent technically,
    but just as important is the ability he has to explain things so that
    folks who aren't experts can understand them.  This is the true job of
    the FTSC and we would do well to remember that.

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    Using 'Float' in a CSS StyleSheet

    When you use float with CSS Style Sheet, an element can be pushed to the
    left or right, allowing other elements to wrap around it, or be aligned
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    Float is often used for images when you want them placed in a certain
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    Elements float horizontally.  An element can only float left or right,
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    F O O D     Even sysops have to eat!  
    -=-=-=-=-=- 
    By Janis  Kracht, 1:261/38
    
    = Polenta =
    for a Change of Pace
    
    Put 2 cups water and 2 cups Chicken stock in a large pot.  Add 3/4
    teaspoon salt.  Bring to a boil.  While whisking constantly add 1 cup
    fine grain yellow cornmeal.  Lower the heat to medium.  When well
    mixed, switch to a wooden spoon and stir frequently.  Continue cooking
    for about 15-20 minutes, or until the polenta starts to pull away from
    the sides of the pan.
    
    Turn off the heat.  Add 1 tablespoon butter and about 1/2 to 1 cup
    freshly grated Parmesean cheese.  Stir until combined, and serve.
    
    We like polenta fried as well.  This one is served soft and served with
    Italian pot roast.  
     
        
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       Definite Solutions  |?    | sales@defsol.se                
                           |     | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project        |MTPUI|http://husky.sourceforge.net/
                           |O?   | v1.9 RC2 on Apr 20 2010
      
      Taurus               |MI   |http://www.fidotel.com/public/forums/
      (based on Radius)    |?    |  taurus/index.htm
                           |     | v5.0 Jun 12 2006
                           |     | 

      T-Mail               |MI   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru (Russian only)
                           |?    | v2608 on Dec 12 2001
            
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

     ==> MAIL TOSSERS 
     
      Crashmail II         |TO   |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | 
     
      FastEcho             |T    |http://www.softeq.de/Products/FastEcho/
                           |     | fastecho.html
                           |     | v1.46.1 on 13 Nov 2007
                           |     | Registration keys are free and available
                           |     | by request from the author
                           
      Fidogate             |TUI? |http://www.fidogate.org
                           |     | v4.4.10 on Aug 27 2004
                           |     |

      FMail                |TO*? |http://fmail.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | v1.60 on Mar 8 2008
                           |     | Source code only!
    
      Squish               |T*   |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
                           |     | v1.11R2 on Jan 1 2009
                           |     | Source code available in the Maximus BBS 
                           |     | archive: http://maximus.sourceforge.net

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

     ==> BBS SOFTWARE
     
      BBBS                 |BICTM|http://www.bbbs.net             2:22/222 
                           |     |  b@bbbs.net                     
                           |     | v4.01 on January 28 2007   
                           
      EleBBS               |BO*? |http://www.elebbs.com
                           |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9 2002
                           
      Enthral BBS          |B    |http://enthralbbs.com          1:250/501
       Linux/BSD/OSX       |     | v0.429/Alpha on 14 October 2010
                           |     | Fidonet filebone SCENEENT

      Ezycom BBS           |BT   |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com      3:690/682
                           |     | v2.15g2 on Nov 16 2009

      GT Power             |B    |http://www.gtpowerbbs.com/                     
                           |     | v19.00
                           
      Hermes II Project    |BT   |http://www.hermesbbs.com/
       Macintosh-based     |     | malyn@strangegizmo.com
                           |     | v3.5.10b3 

      Maximus BBS          |BO*  |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
                           |     | v3.03
                           |     | Source code available at:
                           |     | http://maximus.sourceforge.net/

      MBSE BBS             |BIO? |http://mbse.sourceforge.net   2:280/2802
                           |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
                           |     | v0.92.0 on Oct 16 2007

      Meltdown BBS         |UIO  |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | v1.0b on Apr 26 2004
                                 
      Mystic BBS           |BO*  |http://www.mysticbbs.com
                           |     | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001

      RemoteAccess BBS     |B?   |http://www.rapro.com             1:1/120
                           |     | bfmorse@rapro.com
                           |     | v2.62.2SW

      Renegade BBS         |B    |http://renegadebbs.info        1:129/305
                           |     | v1.10/DOS on 3 Oct 2009
     
      Spitfire BBS         |B?   |http://www.buffalocrk.com/
                           |     | mdwoltz@buffalocrk.com          
                           |     | v3.6 on Aug 20 1999

      Synchronet BBS       |BTIO |http://www.synchro.net         1:103/705
                           |     | v3.16 on 31 Dec 2006

      Telegard BBS         |B*   |http://www.telegard.net
                           |     | v3.09g2-sp4/mL on Dec 19 1999

      WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum|     | sales@santronics.com
       Xpress: Santronics  |     | 
       Software, Inc.      |     | 
                           
                                                      
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

     ==> TIC PROCESSORS/FILEFIX/SRIF
     
      Allfix               |FIUT |http://www.allfix.com/          1:140/12
                           |     | v6.00g19 21 Apr 2009
     
      NEF/pk               |F    |http://nefpk.8m.com/
                           |     | v2.45b2 on 5 March 2000                     
                           
      TinyTIC              |FO   |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
                           |     |                               1:120/544
      
      VIReq                |FO   |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
                           |     |                               1:120/544
     
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
     
     ==> BBS DOORS/UTILITIES
     
      Cheepware            |DU   |http://kd5col.info/cheepware.html
       Sean Dennis         |     | sdennis72@gmail.com            1:18/200
                           |     | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE 
                           

      DDS (Doorware        |D@   |http://www.doorgames.org     
       Distribution System)|     | ruth@doorgames.org
       Ruth Argust         |     |

      Jibben Software      |D*   |http://www.jibbensoftware.com/
                           |     |  bbs-door-games.cfm
                           |     | scott@jibben.com
                           |     | 1995-99 Release dates

      John Dailey Software |DU?  |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com

      Shining Star         |D*   |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
                           |     | nannette@shiningstar.net
                           |     | Doors are still registerable via website
                           
      Sunrise Doors:       |D    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
       Al Lawrence         |     | al@sunrisedoors.com
                           |     | Tel: (404) 256-9518

      T1ny's Software      |DU   |http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/tsoft/
       Shawn Highfield     |     | shighfield@gmail.com          1:229/452
                           |     | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE
                                                      
      The Brainex System   |D    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
                           |     | stanley@brainex.com
                           |     | 1994-99 Releases

      Trade Wars           |D*   |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
                           |     | jpritch@eisonline.com
                           |     | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
                           
      Vagabond Software    |DU*  |http://http://vbsoft.dhakota.org
                           |     | d@dhakota.org 
                           |     | Last update: Apr 11 2008

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
     
     ==> POINT SOFTWARE
                                
      CrossPoint (XP)      |P?   |http://www.crosspoint.de (German only)
                           |     | pm@crosspoint.de
                           |     | v3.12d  on Dec 22 1999

      FreeXP               |P    |http://www.freexp.de (German only)
                           |     | support@freexp.de
                           |     | v3.42 on Jun 27 2010
                           
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

     ==> SYSOP MAIL EDITORS 
     
      GoldEd+              |EO*? |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
                           |     | v1.1.5 (Snapshot) on Apr 29 2010

      SqEd32               |E    |http://www.sqed.de            2:2476/493
                           |     | v1.15 on Dec 15 1999
                           |     | Website is in German and English

     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

     ==> INTERNET UTILITIES
     
      JamNNTPd             |UIO  |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
      
      Internet Rex         |UI?  |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
                           |     | telnet://xanadubbs.ca         1:342/806
                           |     | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001

      TransNet             |UIO? |http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/
                           |     |  transnet/index.html
                           |     | transnet@ressl.com.ar
                           |     | v2.11 on Sep 13 2007

      Ifmail               |UIO  |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
                           |     | crosser@average.org         
            
      MakeNL               |UO   |http://www.filegate.net/coordutl/
                           |     | v3.2.9 on Feb 1 2010
                           
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

     ==> INFORMATIONAL WEBSITES/BBS LISTS
     
      Telnet/Dialup BBS    |#    |http://www.telnetbbsguide.com   1:275/89
       Guide               |     | Maintained by Dave Perrussel
                           |     | This is probably the most updated BBS
                           |     | list on the Internet for a general
                           |     | BBS list.
                           
      Synchronet BBS List  |#    |http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html
                           |     | Maintained automatically
                           |     | This list is specifically for
                           |     | Synchronet-based BBS systems and is
                           |     | automatically updated nightly. 

      The BBS Corner       |#    |http://www.bbscorner.com
                           |     | This website is more than just files,
                           |     | it's an encyclopedia of knowledge for
                           |     | BBS sysops and people who want to
                           |     | become sysops.  This site is run by
                           |     | the same person who does the Telnet
                           |     | BBS Guide.
                                                     
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      File Archives:

       http://archives.thebbs.org
       http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org (site is no longer maintained)
       http://www.simtel.net 
       http://www.bbsfiles.com 
       http://hobbes.nmsu.edu (OS/2 specific)
       http://www.filegate.net/ (FTP access via port 60721)
       http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/

      Note: Most also provide FTP access (use ftp instead of http above)
      
      The BBS Software List is published monthly in the FidoGazette.
            
      If you have corrections, suggestions or additions to the information
      above, please contact Sean Dennis with your information via the
      FIDOGAZETTE echo, netmail at 1:18/200 or email at sean@kd5col.info.
                  

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	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
	!!!        G A Z E T T E   B B S   L I S T        !!!
	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
	By bbslist @ filegate.net    
    	
	Send updates, changes to address above or to janis @ filegate.net.


	System.......Christian Fellowship
	FidoAddress..1:266/512
	Phone........1-856-933-7096
	Software.....PCBoard 15.3
	OS...........Windows XP pro
	C/B Verify...Manually via email or voice 
	             usually within 24 hours.
	Access.......Read only until verified. Once 
	             verified write access to Msg bases, file 
	             areas, chat and doors/games.
	Telnet.......cfbbs.dtdns.net or cfbbs.no-ip.com

	 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	System.......Lightning BBS
	FidoAddress..1:311/2
	Software.....Virtual Advanced
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First call access to doors, files and
  	             message reading.  Message posting requires 
  	             validation.
	Telnet.......lightningbbs.com
	www:.........http:/www.lightningbbs.com/index.php
	             Thanks to VADV-PHP you can access almost 
	             everything the BBS has to offer from the
	             web, with the exception of door games.
	             
	 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-	             

	System.......Lionsden BBS
	FidoAddress..1:224/303
	Phone........613-392-8896
	Software.....Sunchronet
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas.
	Telnet.......lionsden.darktech.org
	             telnet access offers full features
     		   of the standard bbs such as doors, 
     		   qwkmail, Files, etc.
	www:.........http:/www.lionsden.darktech.org 
	             You will redirected to a menu where you can 
	             choose one of three sites.  The first one is 
	             private and requires PW to get into.
	FTP..........FTP://lionsden.darktech.org Files only

	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

        System.......Paragon
        FidoAddress..1:18/200
        Phone........423-926-7999
        Software.....Maximus
        OS...........OS/2 Warp 4.52
        C/B Verify...None
        Access.......Manual verification for full access
        Telnet.......nsbbs.darktech.org
        www:.........http://kd5col.info
    
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                            	      
	System.......Prism BBS
	FidoAddress..1:261/38
	Phone........607-655-5652
	Software.....BBBS LiI v4.01 Flag #
	OS...........Linux (Ubuntu)
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, 
	             file areas, all features of the BBS.
	Telnet.......filegate.net
	             telnet access offers full features 
	             of the standard bbs such as doors,
	             qwkmail, BWmail,Files, chat, group chat,
	             etc.       
	www:.........http:/www.filegate.net:8090/bbbs
	             web interface is limited to reading messages 
	             and replying online, or downloading messages 
	             in qwk packets, but not uploading them,
	             file download access, guest account.
	FTP:	        filegate.net, port 60721. 
	             public access to file areas (please 
       		   note change of port for public access).
	             
	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	System.......Roach Guts BBS 
	FidoAddress..1:396/60 
	Phone:.......337-433-4135
	Software.....Maximus on Port 23 (primary)
	             Synchronet on Port 24 (temporary)
	OS...........Windows XP
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First call access to doors, files and
                     message reading.  Message posting requires
       		     validation.
	Telnet.......roachguts.com

	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 	 
      
	System.......Time Warp of the Future BBS
	FidoAddress..1:14/400
	Phone........none
	Software.....sbbs 3.15a (very beta)
	OS...........win. (xp pro. sp3)
	C/B Verify...None
	Access.......First Call access to Msg bases, and file areas.
	Telnet.......time.synchro.net:24 or time.darktech.org:24
	             or timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:24
	             telnet access offers full features 
	             of the standard bbs such as doors,
	             messages or file area etc.
	www:.........http://time.synchro.net:81 
	             Web interface is limited really to reading messages 
                  and replying online, or downloading messages in qwk 
                  packets, but not uploading them, and file download access. 
                  SBBS files available.

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     -    e-Ministries     -
     -   by Jon Justvig    -
     -  December 2, 2010   -
     -----------------------

     Issue #: 5

     Everything to be going so well with the creation of Heaven, Earth,
     night and day, all of life including the animals and flock of the
     air.  Now something terrible happens.  With all good things, there
     is always it's equal and opposite.

     [KJV] Gen 3:1  Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the
                    field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto
                    the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of
                    every tree of the garden?

     Remember, serpent or snake also means "liar and deceiver".  A 
     creature that is so subtil (meaning persuasiven) was about to
     change mankind forever.  This serpent is now tempting Eve against
     what God had specifically forbidden.  When you go against God you're
     asking for trouble.  This is exactly what is about to take place.

     [KJV] Gen 3:2  And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of
                    the fruit of the trees of the garden:
 
     [KJV] Gen 3:3  But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of
                    the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it,
                    neither shall ye touch it, Gen 3:4  And the serpent
                    said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

     God was telling the truth, he wasn't lying when he said if you touch
     it you will die.  This doesn't mean that you will pass away
     immediately, just that there's going to be a consequence for the
     action that is taken if you disobey God.

     [KJV] Gen 3:4  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not
                    surely die:
 
     [KJV] Gen 3:5  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof,
                    then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as
                    gods, knowing good and evil.

     Knowing good and evil was never intended to be our job, this created
     the ultimate problem we see now until the end.  Man and woman wasn't
     meant to be God, play or pretend.  This was Satan's problem when he
     tried to overthrow God.  He was the most beautiful angel in Heaven
     and the moment he tried to do one up on God was time he was fallen
     and he will fall forever, taking as many souls he can with him.  So,
     keep your guard up and don't be fooled by the wicked schemes of the
     devil.

     [KJV] Gen 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for
                    food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a
                    tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the
                    fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her
                    husband with her; and he did eat.

     It might have looked good and tasted good, it wasn't meant for us.
     Woman and man alike were pure up to this point until Eve took that
     fruit and ate it.  Hey, this is good fruit, I'll give it to my
     husband.  So now both man and woman were set for destruction.  What
     always seem pleasing could be pleasing for the wrong reason and
     intent.  Temptation plays a part in a lot of peoples lives and
     destroys them inside and out.  Just like this death wasn't immediate
     that doesn't mean it's not going to happen.  We fool ourselves
     sometimes with this kind of thinking.

     [KJV] Gen 3:7  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew
                    that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves
                    together, and made themselves aprons.

     It wasn't because they were naked, they were filled with guilt by
     going against God.  You can run but you can't hide.

     [KJV] Gen 3:8  And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in
                    the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his
                    wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God
                    amongst the trees of the garden. 

     Hiding from God set off the loudest bells you could hear with God.
     Doing something you're not supposed to do and then trying to hide
     because they believed in their heart they had done wrong and didn't
     want to claim it.  It was the only thing God asked them to do and
     they didn't do it.  You know temptation is something.  If you know
     you can't do something, you want to do it.  If you can do it, you
     don't want to.

     [KJV] Gal 6:7  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a
                    man soweth, that shall he also reap.

     If you sow a pineapple tree, you will get pineapple.  If it soe a
     cherry tree, you will get cherries.  If you sow hate towards someone
     even if they don't hate you, someone that does will come along and
     do it to you even more.  Have love and peace in your heart and you
     should have a good day.  Always meditate on the Word of God, night
     and day.  Just keep in mind, if you disobey God, you're going to get
     his wrath one way or another and it's different for everybody
     because we're all were created different, one thing might not bother
     us like it would someone else.  God knows our heart.  Read the word
     and be obedient!

     [KJV] Gen 3:9  And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him,
                    Where art thou?

     We all know that God knew what had already been done.  He has a
     God-sense for this kind of thing.  So God is calling Adam out from
     where he's hiding.

     [KJV] Gen 3:10  And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I
                     was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

     Naked?  How on earth did Adam know how was naked.  Of course, his
     eyes were open, knowing good and evil.  From time to time, I see
     people somewhere or another that are blind, never seeing the world
     seem the most blessed and happy.  Just brings up the question, are
     we deceived if were told not to see?  It's that temptation again of
     what it is that you want to see knowing you can't.  I wondering what
     went into the mind of Adam and Eve's imagination of what they saw
     and dreamed of before they were opened up to this fresh can of
     worms.

     [KJV] Gen 3:11  And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?
                     Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded
                     thee that thou shouldest not eat? 

     [KJV] Gen 3:12  And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be
                     with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

     See, now the truth comes out.  And, he couldn't take the blame for
     what he had done, he wanted to put the blame on Eve too just as Eve
     gave Adam the fruit from the forbidden tree.  I have to do it, you
     do too.

     Think about the punishment from God being deceived in your own life,
     doing something you know is wrong in your heart and do it anyway.
     Next time we'll go over what happened as the consequence.

     Remember to look up, keep your heart strong.  Don't let anybody
     fool you into doing something that you know in your heart is wrong.
     If it's right in your mind, but you have this strong feeling about
     it might not be right, remember, that's the holy spirit trying to
     stop you before you make a mistake and have to repent afterward.

     If you've enjoyed our meeting, remember to ask your SysOp to carry
     MINISTER, an echo with FidoNet if he/she doesn't already.  Remember
     also to keep your head up high.  May God bless you and keep you!

     *** This conclude this issue of e-Ministries provided by Jon
         Justvig.

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    Fidogazette is published by Janis Kracht, Editor, with the help of
    Richard Webb 1:116/901 (Old School ToolBox), and Sean Dennis 1:18/200
    (The Slightly Crusty Sysop).  If you have an idea for a column or a
    series of articles, please contact me :)
    
    New! 
    Email subsriptions via www.filegate.net, but of course you can always
    link into your uplink and use Tick or a tick compatible program:
    
    
    
    
    Where to Send Your Articles

    Unlike most editors, I surely do not  mind running my mouth when
    there is a sparcity of articles for the 'zine.  I'd MUCH rather
    you sent in material but I think until someone starts a
    discussion you feel like commenting about, you evil dullards
    (just kidding!!!) will no doubt complain about "no issues" (grin)
    So I will fill these issues with my meanderings and thoughts and
    hopefully we will grow into something of consequence here :)
    Don't be offended.. write an article!

    If you WOULD like to submit an article and prove me wrong about
    the dullard aspect of you guys and gals , feel free to drop
    your article off at:

    By email attach to address: janis @ filegate.net 
    Fidonet attach:     Janis Kracht at 1:261/38     Modem: 607-655-5652 
    1:261/100 filegate.net port 24555  via binkp or telnet mailer  
    (don't send articles as routed attaches, send them direct to filegate.net).
   
    Standard binkp port only supports BinkP (24554).

    Give it a title, sign your name and network address if you have
    one and send it along!

    Don't worry about the format, I can take anything you send me
    and mutilate it further as you can see above.  Linux is nice
    that way (g).  Spell checking your own work will help though
    (something I'm typically guilty of (g)).
     
     To send reviews or recipes to the Food section, email or netmail Janis
     as above.

     New email address for submissions to Dr.Debug:
     To send a question to Dr. Debug, email a question to drdebug @
     filegate.net or post in the fidogazette echo!  :)

     To send a listing to the fidogazette internet bbs list, send your bbs
     listing to bbslist @ filegate.net or post it in the fidogazette echo! 
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