Frenemies
Presentation
StarringEthan Klein
Trisha Paytas
GenreComedy
Drama
Length53-153 minutes
Production
No. of episodes
  • 39 (podcast)
  • 2 (vlogs)
Publication
Original releaseSeptember 15, 2020 –
June 8, 2021
ProviderH3 Podcast

Frenemies was a podcast hosted by Trisha Paytas and Ethan Klein on the H3 Podcast. The podcast focused on discussing personal experiences, pop culture, internet drama and mental health.[1] It consisted of 39 episodes and two accompanying vlogs. Paytas and Klein's friendship was occasionally tumultuous, leading to episodes that were incomplete due to a verbal argument.[2] The podcast came to an end during its 39th episode, after a dispute with Paytas and Klein about podcast revenue[3] and production ownership.[4] Despite this, "Frenemies" gained recognition in the podcasting realm and found a place in numerous Top 50 lists,[5][6] frequently pulling in millions of viewers per episode.[4][7]

Background

In May 2019, YouTuber Ethan Klein of h3h3Productions released a video titled "Instagram vs. Reality," in which he criticized the heavy editing and filtering of photos on social media.[8][9] In this video he criticized Paytas’ excessive editing of their photos.[10] Paytas responded with a series of tweets, calling Klein a "disgusting piece of shit" and accusing him of causing harm to young girls.[11] The two engaged in a back-and-forth exchange, with Klein mocking Paytas in subsequent videos.

Eventually, Klein and Paytas reconciled and even appeared together on the H3 Podcast in October 2019.[12] Following this, the Kleins had Paytas back on the podcast to compete in their series entitled "the BacH3lorette," a parody of ABC's The Bachelorette. It was this time that Paytas connected with Moses Hacmon, brother of Hila Klein, Ethan's wife and, during the initial COVID-19 lockdowns of 2020, started a relationship with Hacmon[13] whom she later married.[14] In September 2020, the podcast was launched, with the first episodes' title ("Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother - Frenemies #1") referencing the start of their relationship.[15]

Content

Frenemies primarily revolved around Paytas and Klein's unique friendship and the dynamic that came with it. The podcast was described as having a very open dialog about mental health.[2][16] They often engaged in feuds with other creators, such as members of the Vlog Squad.[17][18] On occasions, the podcast featured guests, such as Dr. Drew Pinsky,[19] Jeff Wittek,[20][21] and Hila Klein.

Show conclusion

In the ending of Episode 39 (entitled "Talking About Gabbie Hanna - Frenemies # 39") Ethan and Trisha got into a dispute over the production of the podcast and the revenue sharing they had set up[22] which ultimately led to Paytas leaving set before the podcast had ended. Klein had set up a 55/45 revenue share for the podcast, claiming that his extra 5%[23] would be utilized to cover the production costs.[24] The H3 Podcast announced on Twitter once the episode had been published "New episode with a heavy heart as it is our last."[25] The pair feuded on Twitter before ultimately both deleting tweets[22] they had made about each other, with Paytas adding "I don’t want enemies. I’ve tried really hard to make amends with people I’ve been in “drama” with. I don’t want it."[26] Paytas said in a video statement that she was grateful for the experience, but was ultimately firm in her decision to "step away" from the show.[22] Klein echoed this sentiment with a video response[27] and several Twitter statements, adding that he "[knew] how much it meant to everyone" and "did everything [he] humanly could to save it."[28]

Legacy and follow up shows

In July 2021, Frenemies merchandise was released in collaboration with Kleins clothing company Teddy Fresh.[29][30] These items were already in production prior to the ending of the podcast. During this time, Klein and Paytas also recorded a final episode of the podcast however, the episode never aired.[31]

After the ending of the show, Klein started a new podcast, entitled Families, as a temporary replacement to the Frenemies podcast.[32] The podcast featured him and his mother Donna Klein, and retained similar branding and the same set as the Frenemies podcast.[33] The Families podcast ended after 10 episodes, with one additional reunion episode taking place as a "holiday special".[34] Following the conclusion of Families, Klein launched a new podcast titled “Leftovers” with political commentator Hasan Piker.[32] In June 2022, Klein released a video entitled Frenemies Is Back & Short Lived featuring himself and musician Oliver Tree hosting an episode of the show on the Frenemies set.[35][36]

Episodes

Episode No.TitleAir Date
1Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's BrotherSeptember 15, 2020
2Trisha's Obsession With Jewish PeopleSeptember 22, 2020
3Possibly Our Last EpisodeSeptember 29, 2020
4Is Trisha Smarter Than A 5th Grader?October 6, 2020
5Trisha & Ethan Have a Huge Fight & She Storms OutOctober 13, 2020
6Trisha & Ethan Reconcile...Kind ofOctober 20, 2020
7Couples Therapy With Dr. DrewOctober 27, 2020
8Trisha & Ethan Fight About The ElectionNovember 3, 2020
9Cheese Mukbang DisasterNovember 17, 2020
10Trisha vs Charli & Dixie D'Amelio (Dramageddon 2.0)November 24, 2020
11Trisha & Ethan Do Goat Yoga & Carpool KaraokeDecember 1, 2020
12Trisha Was Kidnapped At GunpointDecember 8, 2020
13Trisha Quits the Podcast & Storms OutDecember 10, 2020
14The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. DrewDecember 16, 2020
15We Made The Only Honest Award Show - Introducing The SteamiesJanuary 5, 2021
16Frenemies Is Under AttackJanuary 12, 2021
17Trisha Was Bullied & It's Not OKJanuary 19, 2021
18Pop Culture Trivia War & Friendship With Shane Is OverJanuary 26, 2021
19The David Dobrik & Jason Nash EpisodeFebruary 2, 2021
20Newlywed Game (Trish & Moses vs Ethan & Hila)February 9, 2021
21Erased David Dobrik Footage Proves Trisha Was Right All AlongFebruary 16, 2021
22Ethan & Trisha Do An Athletics CompetitionFebruary 23, 2021
23David Dobrik & James Charles Drama ApocalypseMarch 2, 2021
24Jewish Trivia Contest, David Dobrik & Scotty SireMarch 9, 2021
25David Dobrik’s Lawyers Go After Trisha & Cooking CompetitionMarch 16, 2021
26Responding To Jeff Wittek & New David Dobrik FootageMarch 21, 2021 (Episode aired live)
27Jeff Wittek Interview FalloutMarch 23, 2021
28Responding To David's ApologyMarch 23, 2021 (Episode aired live)
29Trisha's Epic Passover Dinner At Ethan'sMarch 30, 2021
30Trisha & Ethan Do Oddly Satisfying TrendsApril 6, 2021
31Khloe Kardashian Photo Drama & Pizza Eating ContestApril 13, 2021
32James Charles Entire Channel Demonetized by YouTubeApril 20, 2021
33Jeff Wittek, David Dobrik, & TRIVIA!April 27, 2021
34Trisha's Birthday CelebrationMay 4, 2021
35Ethan Embarrassed Himself In Front Of Trisha's FamilyMay 11, 2021
36Trisha & Ethan Got Bullied & Are Fighting BackMay 18, 2021
37Taking Trisha To Meme SchoolMay 25, 2021
38PREGNANCY ANNOUNCEMENT!June 1, 2021
39Talking About Gabbie HannaJune 8, 2021
40Frenemies Is Back & Short LivedJune 17, 2022

References

  1. ↑ Dodgson, Lindsay. "A podcast hosted by 2 of YouTube's most controversial personalities is creating new conversations about mental health". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  2. 1 2 "'Frenemies' Is The Most Unexpectedly Cathartic Podcast on the Internet". Junkee. 2021-04-13. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  3. ↑ Hampton, Rachelle; Kircher, Madison Malone (2021-06-12). "The Inexplicable Saga of Internet Provocateur Trisha Paytas, Explained". Slate. ISSN 1091-2339. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  4. 1 2 Bergman, Lindsay Dodgson, Sirena. "How 'Frenemies,' one of YouTube's buzziest podcasts, crashed and burned in less than a week". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  5. ↑ "Podcasting Hasn't Produced A New Hit in Years". Bloomberg.com. 2022-01-09. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  6. ↑ "Edison Research Top 50 Podcasts". www.edisonresearch.com. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  7. ↑ "Trisha Paytas steps down from 'Frenemies' podcast after tense dispute on the show". Mashable. 2021-06-08. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  8. ↑ Colombo, Lindsay Dodgson, Palmer Haasch, Charlotte. "A timeline of Trisha Paytas' turbulent history with H3H3's Ethan Klein, from body-shaming to Paytas quitting 'Frenemies'". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  9. ↑ "Ethan Klein speaks out on Trisha Paytas' 'Frenemies' departure, Paytas responds". Mashable. 2021-06-10. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  10. ↑ Nolan, Emma (2021-06-09). "Here's Why Trisha Paytas Quit the 'Frenemies' Podcast". Newsweek. Retrieved 2023-06-05.
  11. ↑ "Trisha Paytas calls H3H3 a "disgusting piece of shit" because of video 'exposing' her photoshop". Dexerto. 9 May 2019. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  12. ↑ "Frenemies: Trisha Paytas and Ethan Klein's messy drama shows how dark YouTube can get". The Independent. 2021-06-10. Retrieved 2023-06-05.
  13. ↑ Trisha Paytas Ruins The H3 Podcast - H3 Podcast #184, retrieved 2023-05-31
  14. ↑ "Ethan Klein blamed Trisha Paytas' fans for accusations that Teddy Fresh is a 'toxic' work environment". Business Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  15. ↑ "H3 Podcast: Frenemies #1 - Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  16. ↑ Dodgson, Lindsay (January 8, 2021). "Frenemies podcast: H3H3, Trisha Paytas create mental health discussion". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  17. ↑ Mendez II, Moises. "David Dobrik said he injured his childhood friend in a 2016 video resurfaced after Jeff Wittek's accident". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  18. ↑ Merrill, Emily. "Frenemies: the podcast changing culture norms". The Prairie News. Retrieved 2023-06-05.
  19. ↑ "H3 Podcast: The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. Drew - Frenemies #14 on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  20. ↑ Haylock, Florence O'Connor, Zoe (2022-06-27). "A Timeline of the David Dobrik Allegations and Controversies". Vulture. Retrieved 2023-06-01.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  21. ↑ Nolan, Emma (2021-04-22). "David Dobrik Accused of Endangering Jeff Wittek's Life With Dangerous Stunt". Newsweek. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  22. 1 2 3 "Trisha Paytas Explains Why They Quit Popular 'Frenemies' Podcast". Nylon. 2021-06-09. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  23. ↑ Song, Sandra (June 9, 2021). "Trisha Paytas Quits 'Frenemies' Podcast". PAPER Magazine.
  24. ↑ Tenbarge, Kat. "Trisha Paytas denied being antisemitic after calling Ethan Klein 'Jewy' while the podcast co-hosts discussed money". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  25. ↑ @theh3podcast (June 8, 2021). "New episode with a heavy heart as it is our last" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2023-10-04. Retrieved 2023-10-04 – via Twitter.
  26. ↑ @trishapaytas (June 9, 2021). "Deleted all my tweets from last night. I shouldn't have shown private conversations. I apologize. I apologize for everything. This got blown out of proportion. I don't want enemies. I've tried really hard to make amends with people I've been in "drama" with. I don't want it" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2023-10-04. Retrieved 2023-10-04 – via Twitter.
  27. ↑ Cost, Ben (2021-06-09). "Trisha Paytas quits 'Frenemies' podcast amid feud with frenemy". New York Post. Retrieved 2023-06-05.
  28. ↑ @h3h3productions (June 8, 2021). "i am honestly gutted over this whole thing, trisha's video this morning was a total surprise to me. I dont really know what more I can say or do. Im very sorry to all the fans of frenemies, I know how much it meant to everyone, I did everything I humanly could to save it" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2023-10-04 – via Twitter.
  29. ↑ "Frenemies – Teddy Fresh". 2021-07-10. Archived from the original on 2021-07-10. Retrieved 2023-06-23.
  30. ↑ "Ethan Klein on Instagram: "Frenemies merch live at 12:30 pst teddyfresh.com/frenemies"". Instagram. Retrieved 2023-06-23.
  31. ↑ Rao, Karishma (2021-07-15). ""I got an apology from Ethan": Trisha Paytas reveals she filmed a new Frenemies episode which will not air online". www.sportskeeda.com. Retrieved 2023-06-23.
  32. 1 2 "Ethan Klein, Hasan Piker Launch 'Leftovers' Podcast Following Dissolution Of 'Frenemies'". Tubefilter. 2021-09-27. Retrieved 2023-06-05.
  33. ↑ "H3H3 reveal why they ended 'Families' podcast after Frenemies drama". Dexerto. 27 August 2021. Retrieved 2023-06-02.
  34. ↑ "Families - YouTube". www.youtube.com. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  35. ↑ Frenemies Is Back & Short Lived, retrieved 2023-06-01
  36. ↑ "Ethan Klein brings back Frenemies podcast without Trisha Paytas". Dexerto. 18 June 2022. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
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